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. >> right now, i'd say we're nowhere. >> reporter: president obama is looking for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years. speaker boehner is offering half of that. there's $600 billion. the speaker says that's not enough. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect. half of that at the pentagon. the other half coming in transportation, food safety and research. economists feel if washington can't strike a deal, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have t
. >> right now, i'd say we're nowhere. >> reporter: president obama is looking for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years. speaker boehner is offering half of that. there's $600 billion. the speaker says that's not enough. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will...
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. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope they meet in the middle. >> he doesn't have to come down though. i agree with compromise. i would say 51% voted for this. you know what, go ahead. it is like having a teenager that you keep telling, vegetables are good for you and they keep kicking your shins saying, i am not eating the vegetables. finally i say, eat twinkies until you die. >> you can't because twinkies have been eliminated. >> someone is going to buy them. >> last word to you, bill. >> geitner says this is going to happen, but we have to go through a little political theater. they want people to come together an
. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope...
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"early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for thursday, december 6th, 2012. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. well, this week president obama put syrian leader bashar al assad on notice specifically about the use of chemical weapons, and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news syria is preparing chemical weapons for their possible use against the syrian people in the form of aerial bombs. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the precursor chemicals for seron nerve gas into aerial bombs that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons site, like this one near homs. while u.s. officials confirmed the precursor chemicals are loaded and they must be mixed together to get the sarin gas. president obama and hillary clinton issued strong warning to syria's president bashar al assad. >> it's the
"early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for thursday, december 6th, 2012. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. well, this week president obama put syrian leader bashar al assad on notice specifically about the use of chemical weapons, and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news syria is preparing chemical weapons for their possible use against the syrian people in the form of aerial bombs. >> reporter: as the...
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across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax base. including more people paying taxes. this is a joke on top of joke, andly give you this. entitle reform are good ideas. calling the -- >> dana: i thought bush tax cuts only help the rich. i defended that for eight
across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good...
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investigating right now. why won't they let us know what they found. >> bob: accept the fact, even if it was to cover up for obama's campaign, i'll accept that. let it go. there is nothing to talk about it. >> andrea: let it go? >> bob: they pushed the video to cover up for the obama campaign. i agree with you. that is a huge story. huge story. >> bob: how many times are you going to say it? >> greg: keep saying it until something happens. >> eric: four murders. >> bob: they pushed the video to help him get re-elected. that is a hell of a story to win a pulitzer. i would. >> bob: he was not supposed to be there. >> greg: if romney was president, different story. he'd be i peached. >> andrea: it was the ambassador's fault? he wasn't supposed to be there? >> bob: you called it an embassy. >> andrea: consulate. british embassy was bombed before and that should have triggered to us secure our own. >> bob: bomb in libya. there's a surprise. >> greg: coming up, from devil to diplomat. the inspiration for devil in "
investigating right now. why won't they let us know what they found. >> bob: accept the fact, even if it was to cover up for obama's campaign, i'll accept that. let it go. there is nothing to talk about it. >> andrea: let it go? >> bob: they pushed the video to cover up for the obama campaign. i agree with you. that is a huge story. huge story. >> bob: how many times are you going to say it? >> greg: keep saying it until something happens. >> eric: four...
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and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was intended for counter-terrorism purposes, some of the worst examples, the homeland security department paid for a hog catcher in texas. a fish tank and an underwater robot in a midwest city with no major rivers or lakes nearby. former republican senator allen simpson has a message, use the tools to sign up people for the can kicks back campaign to avoid the fiscal cliff and cut the national debt. the 81-year-old simpson went "gangnam style" to make his point. ♪ >> i have a bum knee. horse, horse. ride the horse. >> senator, thank you for that. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to bill karins. he has your weather channel forecast. >> the best part is the underwater robot for a place that doesn't have water. >> maybe it's a pool. >> yes. >> and they need to inspect
and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was intended for counter-terrorism purposes, some of the worst examples, the homeland security department paid for a hog catcher in texas. a fish tank and an underwater robot in a midwest city with no major rivers or lakes nearby. former republican senator allen simpson has a message,...
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. >>> right now, the syrian military is prepared to use nerve weapons against its own people. will this guy give that order? new details ahead. >>> president obama remains firm that the wealthy must pay more. a few republicans are joining him. pipa visits sister kate. >>> the $8 million man and nasa's high res look at you on our planet earth. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites l
. >>> right now, the syrian military is prepared to use nerve weapons against its own people. will this guy give that order? new details ahead. >>> president obama remains firm that the wealthy must pay more. a few republicans are joining him. pipa visits sister kate. >>> the $8 million man and nasa's high res look at you on our planet earth. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of...
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rights are taken away. ♪ ♪ >>> i'm bret baier in washington. the big story is order from the obama administration to pentagon to get ready for sequestration. tonight on "special report," for the first time, the defense department and other agencies are told to start planning for massive spending cuts that will automatically kick in, if a budget deal is not reached. we take look at what the specific cuts would do to the nation's defense capabilities. you heard a lot lately about possibly curtailing tax deductions as a way to raise revenue the president said republicans want to eliminate charitable deductions. we'll see if it's true to get the latest on the cliff negotiations. president and speaker boehner talked today by phone. syrian president bashar assad sent an envoy to several latin american nation to scout location for asylum. special senators from at 6:00 eastern. back to my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: treb story of the homeless man given boots from cop on cold night in new york city last month? it turns out he is not
rights are taken away. ♪ ♪ >>> i'm bret baier in washington. the big story is order from the obama administration to pentagon to get ready for sequestration. tonight on "special report," for the first time, the defense department and other agencies are told to start planning for massive spending cuts that will automatically kick in, if a budget deal is not reached. we take look at what the specific cuts would do to the nation's defense capabilities. you heard a lot lately...
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we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. republicans are doing a lot of maneuvering on the fiscal cliff. president obama and the democrats have put forward a plan relying mostly on raising more revenue from the wealthiest 2% of the country. republicans rely mostly on cuts affecting the middle class and the poor and republicans aren't specific about how they get $800 billion in revenue. for the conversation, let's turn to richard wolffe, msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive director of msnbc.com. and molly ball, political reporter for "the atlantic." the republican proposal includes ryan's voucher program for medicare. we're not even a month away from the election and they are throwing up on the wall everything that was rejected. why are they doing this? >> well, i can tell you why they think they have a mandate. they are throwing insults at each other and that means they are engaging. they may be way apart in terms of the lessons learned. but house republicans have put in their initial offer here. and you
we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. republicans are doing a lot of maneuvering on the fiscal cliff. president obama and the democrats have put forward a plan relying mostly on raising more revenue from the wealthiest 2% of the country. republicans rely mostly on cuts affecting the middle class and the poor and republicans aren't specific about how they get $800 billion in revenue. for the conversation, let's turn to richard...
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. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to governors today largely spares social security and medicare. >> tracie potts for us in washington, thank you. >>> now to the crisis in syria. new reports that the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure syria's chemical and biological weapons. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton both issued warnings to syria monday after intelligence picked up signs the assad regime might be making preparations of some kind with its large stockpile of chemical weapons. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >
. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to governors today largely spares social security and medicare. >> tracie potts for us in washington, thank you. >>> now to the crisis in syria. new reports that the white house and its allies are weighing military options...
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that is despite president obama's promise to cut the red tape. we're joined by a man from the meeting. tom, i take it this gentleman was not the only one who was distraught with fema, is that right? >> of course. almost everybody at that meeting has different issues with fema, whether you lost your whole house and you have flood insurance or you don't have flood insurance. you know, that's where they're at. some people lost half their house, cars, you know. there's a lot of discrepancy in how fema lets out the money, you know. i can tell you stories where people, i know two people who had the same amount of damage, and one person, and they live on the same type of concrete slab, foundation house, right. and one person's floor is not their living quarters because they had three floors and one person's floor is their living quarters because there's only two floors. that person got 2000. she had like 8 inches of water in her living roo room on the ft floor which causes a lot of damage because it soaks up to all the drywall, and this other person who
that is despite president obama's promise to cut the red tape. we're joined by a man from the meeting. tom, i take it this gentleman was not the only one who was distraught with fema, is that right? >> of course. almost everybody at that meeting has different issues with fema, whether you lost your whole house and you have flood insurance or you don't have flood insurance. you know, that's where they're at. some people lost half their house, cars, you know. there's a lot of discrepancy in...
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some numbers from my assistant's pc in new york. and before i reached the top, the board meeting became a congrats we sold the company party. wait til my wife's phone hears about this. [ cellphone vibrating ] [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center, working together has never worked so well. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot?
, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in...
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>> i think right after the election that was the message that even president obama and john boehner and the entire leadership, we saw that incredible image of the minority and majority leaders on both houses come out saying things that sounded like they were going to cooperate. but, you know, only in washington can that mean nothing quickly. but i do think, look, let's put this in perspective. we have a game of chicken going on here with a lot of posturing. there's 30 days to get this done, which for washington time it's like dog years. it's an eternity. one day counts for seven. when they want to get something done, they can get it done. but i think right now you're seeing a lot of public posturing to get the best offer possibly out of the other side. >> l.z.? >> you know, i spent the past couple days out in long beach at the victory fund initiative for lbjt leaders and talked to a lot of members who work in congress as well other congressional aides and ana is right, it's a lot of posturing and a lot of time. to the rest of us american people when we hear, oh, 30 days left, we are thi
>> i think right after the election that was the message that even president obama and john boehner and the entire leadership, we saw that incredible image of the minority and majority leaders on both houses come out saying things that sounded like they were going to cooperate. but, you know, only in washington can that mean nothing quickly. but i do think, look, let's put this in perspective. we have a game of chicken going on here with a lot of posturing. there's 30 days to get this...
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a starting point from president obama. >> dick, where do you see this ending? are we going to jump over that fiscal cliff? >> i don't think so. i think the president's made an offer and i hope that republicans, responsible republicans will make a counter offer that, you know, that maybe some democrats will say is laughable and then let's get down and talk about trying to meet in the middle somewhere. there's going to have to be revenue increases, there's going to have to be spending cuts and we realize that and that's what the american people voted for in november. so i'm hoping that reason minds on both sides of the aisle may come together and that may be whistling in the dark, based on the past in washington, but i really believe this country, under their elected officials, on beat sides of the aisle understand what the consequences will be. >> and kelly, if we go over the cliff, they'll blame republicans so republicans need to take the argument back and go to the american people and tell the american people what they're offering and need to take a page from
a starting point from president obama. >> dick, where do you see this ending? are we going to jump over that fiscal cliff? >> i don't think so. i think the president's made an offer and i hope that republicans, responsible republicans will make a counter offer that, you know, that maybe some democrats will say is laughable and then let's get down and talk about trying to meet in the middle somewhere. there's going to have to be revenue increases, there's going to have to be spending...
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right now let's face it there is a framework in place. it's simpson-bowles and the basis of the 2011 negotiations. not much is going to change from that. so when we're looking forward what needs to be done there's not a lot of options on the table. and the president does have to be concerned while he does have polls on his side, the fact is he does not want to start his second term off his legacy term in a recession, which if we go off the fiscal cliff that will happen. so it's not good for him and not good for the country and not good -- >> sthnt a bisn't this a buyer'? >> that's the issue. we talk about fining a solution the democrats -- they need one too. the fact is that they have to help the republicans get to the pathway of yes instead of forcing them down the road of no. so this does have to be a negotiation. don't you think? >> come on now. >> they really do. >> sound it out. >> in roll call today a day after november election speaker john boehner said republicans are ready to be led by president barack obama. top of their dismay
right now let's face it there is a framework in place. it's simpson-bowles and the basis of the 2011 negotiations. not much is going to change from that. so when we're looking forward what needs to be done there's not a lot of options on the table. and the president does have to be concerned while he does have polls on his side, the fact is he does not want to start his second term off his legacy term in a recession, which if we go off the fiscal cliff that will happen. so it's not good for him...
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some num
, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy...
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. this december, remember -- m] you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. ends december
, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. this december, remember -- m] you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the...
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look, maybe barack obama is right. maybe if you raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no monetary policy, which was great under bill clinton. do not forget that bill clinton did welfare reform. one of the most historic acts over the last 50 years. do not forget that we caught government spending within those years. the problem with obama's proposals is he wants more. this idea that raising tax rates does not hurt the economy because, you can go ahead and spoke three packs of cigarettes a day for the rest of your life because i know somebody who did that and he did not get cancer. stuart: okay. that was very good. [ laughter ] now, i know why you have not been on the show very often. i am at a loss for words when you are done. stephen moore, i do hope you come back and see us soon. >> thank you, sir. stuart: here is an example of what i call tax hypocrisy. costco founder going to s
look, maybe barack obama is right. maybe if you raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no monetary policy, which was great under bill clinton. do not forget that bill clinton did welfare reform. one of the most historic acts over the last 50 years. do not forget that we caught government...
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americans would blame congressional republicans if no deal is reached and 34% would blame president obama. i don't think grover is going to turn that around. >> no, i don't think grover is going to turn that around and i don't think that he's right that tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1. >> he is so wrong. >> but i do think that there is true to the fact that there is already a backlash from the ultra right, grassroot tea partyiers that are still out there upset with boehner over his initial position, which is still quite far to the right, as you and ryan talked about in the last segment, doesn't even include any increase in the top tack rates at all. it still focuses on these magic, you know, reductions of loopholes and deductions that we've never heard anyone from mitt romney or anyone else be able to actually describe. >> let's listen to something that tim geithner said, his description of the republican's problem. >> they are in kind of in a tough position now and it's going to be -- it's obviously a little hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next and we
americans would blame congressional republicans if no deal is reached and 34% would blame president obama. i don't think grover is going to turn that around. >> no, i don't think grover is going to turn that around and i don't think that he's right that tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1. >> he is so wrong. >> but i do think that there is true to the fact that there is already a backlash from the ultra right, grassroot tea partyiers that are still out there upset with boehner...
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and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. champion of gift wrapping turns champion of gift wrapping turns ♪ >>> welcome back, everybody. it was a star-studded night in washington last night. president obama saluted this year's kennedy center honorees. among them, a pretty motley crew here. the members of led zeppelin, talk show host dave letterman. there's dave. as well as renowned actor dustin hoffman. >> the president recognized them for their influence on american culture. he said all started from humble beginnings and made it to the top of their profession. the kennedy center event is an annual december tradition. >> i think we'll actually see the show in a few weeks coming up. very cool. good crowd too. >> yeah. >>> and if you're like me, maybe you're feeling a little fancy. >> you feel fancy? >> i never feel fancy. gift wrapping means putting a present into one of the holiday gift bags with no handles. that's how i roll. but just pay those people at the mall to take care of it. that's the route i prefer. >> we call th
and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. champion of gift wrapping turns champion of gift wrapping turns ♪ >>> welcome back, everybody. it was a star-studded night in washington last night. president obama saluted this year's kennedy center honorees. among them, a pretty motley crew here. the members of led zeppelin, talk show host dave letterman. there's dave. as well as renowned actor dustin hoffman. >> the president recognized them for their...
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>> i think it's a big problem for the obama administration and for the country. the president was right on september 12th when he said that the world needs to understand that when the united states is messed with there will be retribution, and what we've seen thus far, whether it's in the ap story, or a new york times story with one of the suspected plotters of the attack sipping fruit drinks with reporters, or, you know, the fact that the fbi continue get on the ground for several weeks after the attack there doesn't seem to be the urgency that the president suggested that there would be. i think the world needs to see that beyond the immediate concern of just bringing to justice the people who actually committed the act. bill: why does it appear to be such a low priority? what would explain that? >> well one guess would be that it isn't a high priority. this is not something that seems to have taken up a lot of time of folks in the white house, of folks elsewhere. i think if there were the urgency that the president said there would be we would have seen much m
>> i think it's a big problem for the obama administration and for the country. the president was right on september 12th when he said that the world needs to understand that when the united states is messed with there will be retribution, and what we've seen thus far, whether it's in the ap story, or a new york times story with one of the suspected plotters of the attack sipping fruit drinks with reporters, or, you know, the fact that the fbi continue get on the ground for several weeks...
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there is no purpose of whining about president obama having been reelected. but the point being -- do something about it. we are a nation blessed with sufficient talk. right now the republican party has every opportunity to stand up and lead on this issue. they have been quiet and quiet since. megyn: [talking over each other] megyn: what you mean by that? lou: i have had a 30 year career in broadcast. i have an inability to pronounce foreign names. [laughter] megyn: we will continue to call in qatar. thank you, lou. he is a smart man. what look like a magic trick gone terribly wrong, why police say it may not have been a laughing matter and not a mistake at all. police arrested a well-known woman from tennis world, charging her with the murder of her 80-year-old husband. right before the u.s. open. when they arrested her, she was wearing all tennis gear. now experts say the husband may not have been murdered at all. now experts say the husband may not have been murdered at all. >> i'm just thrilled and so thankful for the das office for dropping the charges a
there is no purpose of whining about president obama having been reelected. but the point being -- do something about it. we are a nation blessed with sufficient talk. right now the republican party has every opportunity to stand up and lead on this issue. they have been quiet and quiet since. megyn: [talking over each other] megyn: what you mean by that? lou: i have had a 30 year career in broadcast. i have an inability to pronounce foreign names. [laughter] megyn: we will continue to call in...
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we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week we made a got faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and it included additional revenue. and, frankly, it was the balanced approach that the president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> okay. let's talk about that response from the white house. dan loatthian has been covering that story for us. will it be forthcoming? >> reporter: they did get that offer and the response from the white house was, quote, magic beings and fairy dust. that's how he feels about that. you
we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week...
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they should be hitting their stride right about now. timothy geithner is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: enter a new player in the talks, stephanie cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time i
they should be hitting their stride right about now. timothy geithner is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much...
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, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well, you know, i think the house gop, they have presented their counteroffer which white house spokesman jay carney is referring to as, quote, magic beans and fairy dust. we expect that house republicans will keep putting pressure on the white house to engage, push for more details on what the white house will accept when it comes to additio
, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to...
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that's right. he did that last week. he's meeting with business leaders this week. he'll be addressing the business roundtable and i think a lesson learned, carol. you saw the debt ceiling debate that went on last year and there were all these meetings between the white house and congressional leaders and didn't seem like they were working and doesn't work to president obama's advantage and the strategy is to go outside, get some pressure going. and they don't really want to have a meeting or else they lose the mojo and interesting what anna says and i think people are concerned because two weeks ago you have a kumbaya feeling and you're not feeling that now. but it's december 3rd. in the way these things work and we saw this in the payroll tax cut last year, the debt ceiling, the near-government shutdown last year f. you blink you kind of wait until the last minute to do it. >> when no one notices. >> reporter: yeah. i think in a couple of weeks that's when you maybe are really looking for more movement. >> we'll see. thank you so much for joining us this morning.
that's right. he did that last week. he's meeting with business leaders this week. he'll be addressing the business roundtable and i think a lesson learned, carol. you saw the debt ceiling debate that went on last year and there were all these meetings between the white house and congressional leaders and didn't seem like they were working and doesn't work to president obama's advantage and the strategy is to go outside, get some pressure going. and they don't really want to have a meeting or...
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i know, right? [ male announcer ] introducinbankamerideals, free for online banking customers. sign in to your online banking to choose your deals today. >> gretchen: 16 minutes after the top of the hour. if you are just waking up. it is usually a symbol of pride and patriotism. but the new flag polls seen in iran have a sinister meaning. the flag poles are electronic attenas used to jam communication and block their citizens from getting internet tv and radio signals. why? here with more is disa. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> gretchen: you have inside sources in the country of iran, why would they wanting to fool their citizens as to the real mission of the flag poles. >> the biggest threat to the regime since 2009 when the iranian government was caught off guard and saw the large presence on the internet and getting information from outside of the country and sending information from inside out. it was the twitter rev -- revolution. they were using youtube and blog citizen journalist . this is the dialogue and communication that the government wants to control. so o
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the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican mary bono mack will join us as well. also, carlos gutierrez. former giants runningback tiki barber is with us in the studio. it's monday, december 3rd, and "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. our team joining us around the table. barbara starr, cnn's pentagon correspondent. we were talking this morning, it has been literally four years since we've seen each other in person. >> last time i saw you was inauguration day. >> we talk all the time. in person, four years. kamau bell is a median. new york congresswoman nan hayworth. alina cho sticking around to h
the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican...
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president obama put out his plan. the republicans rejected it. the republicans put out a plan yesterday, and the president rejected it. what should we make of this? >> reporter: well, right now it shows at least publicly both sides are fully entrenched in not wanting to budge on some very specific issues. the president wanting taxes to go up on wealthy americans, those extension only for middle class americans. republicans saying no way at all, and beyond that while they might have some agreement on other issues, those remain the sticking points. i did hear from an administration official a short time ago who told me no update whatsoever when i asked whether or not there would be some counteroffer, i guess, the counteroffer from republicans. so that remains the big sticking point, and it appears that until there's some movement on that, there really won't be an agreement. >> and before you go, i understand speaker boehner and the president were at a holiday reception and, well, what happened? >> well, you know, as you know what happens every year
president obama put out his plan. the republicans rejected it. the republicans put out a plan yesterday, and the president rejected it. what should we make of this? >> reporter: well, right now it shows at least publicly both sides are fully entrenched in not wanting to budge on some very specific issues. the president wanting taxes to go up on wealthy americans, those extension only for middle class americans. republicans saying no way at all, and beyond that while they might have some...
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is dead on right. he was -- he and his team were masters at social media in getting elected. and using social media to spread his message in nontraditional ways, ways that will be traditional in every election going forward. so, he knows what he's doing. and, by the way, i think his particular message this time looks like it's achieving success, carol. 65% of americans are very comfortable with raising taxes on the top 2%. so he knows what he wants and he's got people behind him. >> so why aren't republicans bending? eric cantore came out yesterday and said president obama was obsessd with higher taxes and his obsession would have to go away before any deal is made. if the majority of americans feel comfortable with raising taxes on the wealthiest americans, don't republicans have to bend? >> well, look, first, i think eric cantore is right. i am taken aback at how dedicated president obama is about raising taxes on just 2% of our population, showing amazing amount of resolve to raise taxes on a group
is dead on right. he was -- he and his team were masters at social media in getting elected. and using social media to spread his message in nontraditional ways, ways that will be traditional in every election going forward. so, he knows what he's doing. and, by the way, i think his particular message this time looks like it's achieving success, carol. 65% of americans are very comfortable with raising taxes on the top 2%. so he knows what he wants and he's got people behind him. >> so...
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then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to
then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there...
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that just right now. >> yeah. that's what is unfortunately a missed opportunity because when they had the super committee, which was created after the last debt crisis that we had, they had this great opportunity to do something big, bold that would really equalize the tax code and as a way to have 4% growth that president bush was talk being earlier, how to establish that going forward. and yet, all they're doing really is just tinkering around the edges with not a definite sit reduction plan, but a plan that would raise rates on people that would pay for the government for about 8 1/2 days. it's really not enough and i think everybody is hungry for more. steve forbes had an idea before its time. unfortunately, president obama had a ton of political capital coming in initially. he could have done something big and bold like that and we could be on our way to a stronger economic recovery. >> steve: there is a lot of people who love the idea of a flat tax. but given the political dynamic in washington, d.c. where t
that just right now. >> yeah. that's what is unfortunately a missed opportunity because when they had the super committee, which was created after the last debt crisis that we had, they had this great opportunity to do something big, bold that would really equalize the tax code and as a way to have 4% growth that president bush was talk being earlier, how to establish that going forward. and yet, all they're doing really is just tinkering around the edges with not a definite sit reduction...
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we will be right back. exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. at cepacol we've heard people are going to extremes to relieve their sore throats. oh, okay, you don't need to do that. but i don't want any more of the usual lozenges and i want new cooling relief! ugh. how do you feel? now i'm cold. hmm. this is a better choice. new cepacol sensations cools instantly, and has an active ingredient that stays with you long after the lozenge is gone. ahhh. not just a sensation sensational relief. did you get chips for the party? nope. cheese plate? cheese plate...
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he won the election, right? >> he did. >> maybe that accounts for what's in his proposal. >> yeah. this is clearly a different president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the
he won the election, right? >> he did. >> maybe that accounts for what's in his proposal. >> yeah. this is clearly a different president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after...
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but right now, obama administration officials say they are not at all certain what assad may do next. we want to credit our friends at the website wire.com. they were the first to break the news that all of this involves sarin gas, wolf. >> what can the united states potentially do about this? >> reporter: well, look, this is a very tough neighborhood in the middle east. there is going to have to be an effort, officials say, again to get neighboring countries involved. israel, will they let this happen? perhaps not. we shall see. jordan, of course, we talked to the foreign minister just on friday. most vulnerable potentially. u.s. special forces have been going in and out of jordan for several months now. we have covered this story to help the jordanian military be ready and be prepared if the war crosses borders one way or the other into their country. wolf? >> barbara starr, very alarming news. thank you. syrian civilians are especially vulnerable to a chemical attack. and this latest development is making life even more urn certain for those caught near the front lines of the civil
but right now, obama administration officials say they are not at all certain what assad may do next. we want to credit our friends at the website wire.com. they were the first to break the news that all of this involves sarin gas, wolf. >> what can the united states potentially do about this? >> reporter: well, look, this is a very tough neighborhood in the middle east. there is going to have to be an effort, officials say, again to get neighboring countries involved. israel, will...
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who says president obama can't create jobs. there's one right there. he created a job. >> mitt romney has a new job. he's going back to work. he got a job at a marriott. how about that? mitt will be the guy when you're at the front desk arguing over your mini bar bill, mitt will be the guy that comes from out back, i understand there's some trouble. here, let me have a look at that. you know who's engaged? take a guess. hugh hefner. is this a rerun? isn't he always? always getting engaged.e hef admitted, i've fallen for her and i can't get up. >> she was looking forward to the ceremony. people saying are you talking about the wedding or a funeral? >> "early start" continues right now. >>> the manhundred is the over for the man accused of pushing another man inoncoming subway train. coming up, brand new video of the men arguing on the subway platform and "the new york post" cover that has the paper in hot water this morning. >>> plus, 133 people dead, killed in the massive typhoon that hit the philippines. complete details straight ahead. >>> we are ten
who says president obama can't create jobs. there's one right there. he created a job. >> mitt romney has a new job. he's going back to work. he got a job at a marriott. how about that? mitt will be the guy when you're at the front desk arguing over your mini bar bill, mitt will be the guy that comes from out back, i understand there's some trouble. here, let me have a look at that. you know who's engaged? take a guess. hugh hefner. is this a rerun? isn't he always? always getting...
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president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o says he finds the president's suggestion to congress basically laughable, because the president, you will remember during the campaign the 800 billion number was thrown around for new taxes how much revenue could be brought in if that upper echelon of people were taxed higher. now it has suddenly become 1.6 trillion in new revenue in terms of taxes that the president is looking for. congressman ted pough has thoughts on this. >> his proposal is so ridiculous the idea that if he would raise taxes if we followed his plan wouldn't solve the problem anyway because the spending is so much. he
president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o...
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president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in afghanistan. he's marine corporal general joseph doneford and replaces general john al llen, nominatedo head forces in europe. allen's nomination on hold because of his involvement in the sex scandal that brought down former cia director david petraeus. >>> in foreign news, new intelligence reports, indicate syria's government may be preparing to use chemical and biological weapons against the rebels. in response though, the u.s. and its allies are considering military options. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> reporter: the latest intelligence is alarming. officials telling abc news the u.s
president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in...
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future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that points. >> in the meantime, now the gop is fighting with itself. speaker boehner is facing growing backlash from the more conservative wing of his party. at issue, the $800 billion in new tax revenue he proposed
future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially...
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obama doesn't want another recession. the idea that pallety murray/chuck schumer idea if they can't have their way with no spending, if they can't have their way and raise tax rates they'll let all the tax cuts expire and we'll go into a recession. i think that's a bluff. i think that makes obama herbert hoover obama. he can't take a second recession and it would blow him out of the water. i think that's why the republicans have more leverage than they think. >> that's absolutely true. >> you buy that? >> more importantly there are three other reasons you should be able to get to an agreement. speaker boehner nose knows we need an agreement. three, this is the rare period in american politics where you can have governance with less politics. number four, you have a forcing mechanism. that happens very rarely, so those -- all those factors come together. i believe one of these weekends the president and speaker will get in a room and desire this things. >> we were there in the summer of 2011. we were there. i'm not saying
obama doesn't want another recession. the idea that pallety murray/chuck schumer idea if they can't have their way with no spending, if they can't have their way and raise tax rates they'll let all the tax cuts expire and we'll go into a recession. i think that's a bluff. i think that makes obama herbert hoover obama. he can't take a second recession and it would blow him out of the water. i think that's why the republicans have more leverage than they think. >> that's absolutely true....